ECCO BIOM TERRAIN II (A First Outing Review)

I had been told that these where good for wider feet, and my old divers boots were NOT going to happen, so I really needed some NEW boots for the Monadhliath Trip.
Thanks to Emma at ECCO who got me a pair in time to go, I took off in the
Brand NEW ECCO BIOM Terrain II’s to head to Newtonmore and then a small walk round to Aviemore.

Not a huge trip, but certainly enough to give them a good work over.

The BIOM Terrain II’s are made from Yak Leather with a Gortex Liner
a reinforced toecap and hard wearing Kevlar Rand.
They are designed after research on bio mechanical foot movement, and the intention is for both functionality and comfort.

ECCO BIOM Terrain II

Ecco Technical Info

  • Rugged, lace-up Boots, featuring ECCO’s Biom technology, for natural motion walking and hiking
  • Uppers of Yak leather are at least three times stronger than standard cow hide
  • Gore-tex® lining is breathable and guaranteed to keep your feet dry, even during extended wear
  • Biom technology and low-to-the-ground construction delivers a natual motion experience and full-length foot support
  • Full length foot support created using an anatomically-designed last shape, based on 2,500 different foot scans, for optimum fit
  • Direct-injected, Polyurethane (PU) midsole is lightweight and flexible
  • Rubber sole provides great traction, grip and is hard-wearing

SO HOW DID THEY DO?

Straight from the box they were comfortable, and I was going to wear them on a 3 day hike without any bedding in.

The inner does feel a bit soft, but in fairness to testing, I decided to go with it and see how it got on, rather than swapping for my usual Green Or Blue Superfeet inner

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I wore them on them train on the way up, and then with pack (30lb) on the short walk from Kingussie to Newtonmore.
They were comfortable and do not feel heavy despite being a size 46 EU to fit my big feet.

Which brings me to sizes.

I am a UK 11 which is an EU 45.5

ECCO do not do a real UK 11 and this means that they are ½ an EU size over (shame)

They fitted OK though, but I had to wear a pair of liner socks and then my fluffy Brigdale socks, whereas I normally just wear the one pair of socks.
Still the liner socks help with keeping the foot drier, and stop sock rubbing so all is good there.
Still be nice to get a REAL UK 11 though.
Especially as I have 1 foot ½ a size bigger, so My Right Boot is really an EU size too big.

The next day we headed into the hills.
The weather was errrr. Scottish, so we had Wind, Rain, bog and snow underfoot, as well as heather bashing, Land Rover Track rubble etc etc etc.

I did have to fiddle a bit with the laces to get them right, but after that they worked well, in all conditions and in all terrain, both Up and down hill.
For me they were comfortable.
They feel light on the feet for boots (OK, MID’s), and although I still prefer shoes, if I have to wear boots, then these will do for me.

A few shots of them follow

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Heading out at the start

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On Top Of Fhreiceadain

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Along the Dulnain

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Back Home

As well as comfort, they remained waterproof throughout.
The tops do look like they are wetting through when they get into water, but none of this gets into the inner.

There was a bit of moisture on the inside at the end of the day, but this was just sweat heat from socks, and only really affected the tip of the inner, that felt very very slightly damp. Going to happen in all Gortex lined boots.

At this stage, I cannot really do a long term test but there is no sign of wear anywhere.
Need another 6 months to see what happens there

SO, in conclusion (at this point)

  • GOOD PURCHASE, glad I got them (especially if you have broad feet)
  • Comfort – very comfortable straight from the box
    Good on all Terrains, didn’t feel rocks on LRT’s and good all round grip
  • Lacing System – I thought this worked well, better than hoops.
    I had no issue with the laces slipping either.
  • Inners – Worked fine but I need a bit more heel cup support due to ½ size EU too big (I will go to my Superfeet Green from now on)
    Also, the superfeet do not hold any moisture from sweat at all.
  • Waterproof  –  Appear to be
  • Size – Good for me, BUT would have really liked a 45.5 proper UK 11
  • Style and Design – I like them (some will not like the Green, but I think it is good)
  • Price – You can get cheaper boots, but in some respects you get what you pay for.

You can read the TGO review of them HERE

Now I am rather looking forward to testing the ECCO BIOM ULTRA Gortex GTX shoes.

EccoUltra

Aviemore Probable Gear List

So, looking at conditions and weather, this is the probable gear list for Aviemore trip next week.

Looking at weather and conditions on the ground (we are NOT going very HIGH, since we are going up into the Monadhliath rather than the Cairngorms, I have decided to take some of the heavier  and warmer stuff.

The weights are carried weight and exclude worn clothing and also boots, since they are on my feet

The BOOTS might change depending or NOT on me acquiring a pair of these to use.

ECCO BIOM Terrain Boots

Boots should arrive on Monday….

They didn’t have those ones available, so the rather lovely Emma at ECCO, is sending me these ECCO Terrain 2’s

Same Boot, slight difference

But without that eventuality, here is the currently intended Kit List

I would like to go with a warmer bag (see later), but at the moment I don’t have anything warmer, so I will probably fluff up the old Rolling Clouds in the Tumble Dryer and go with that PLUS the extra Down Clothing, which will kick the temp rating do well below 0, especially on the Exped Mat.

Walking
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
Golite Quest 65L RUCKSACK
x
*
1,600
3.52
ü
RUCKSACK COVER
x
*
100
0.22
ü
DRY SACKS
x
*
175
0.39
ü
Black Diamond Synchline Poles (145)
575
1.27
ü
SIT MAT
x
*
100
0.22
ü
           2,550.00
     –  
ü
          1,975.00
Tent & Sleeping
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
sil Hex Peak Tent (and inner) & Extra Pegs
x
*
1,800
3.96
ü
Old Stormlite Rolling Clouds 500 Bag
x
*
1,250
2.75
ü
Exped 7 Down filled sleeping Mat
x
*
700
1.54
ü
Goosefeet Down Socks
x
*
30
0.07
ü
Goosefeet Down Bootie covers for camp
x
*
60
0.13
ü
MLD Ultralight Bivvy Bag
x
+
200
0.44
ü
           4,040.00
     –  
ü
           4,040.00
CLOTHING
 WT (g)
 LB 
Have
Pack
Ecco Biom Terrain II Mid Boots (Yak Leather)
1200
 2.60
ü
Heavy Gaiter
190
0.42
ü
MONTAINE WINDPROOF
x
*
32
0.07
ü
PHD Thinsulate Pullover
x
*
450
0.99
ü
SOCKS Wear
60
0.13
ü
North Face Apex Trousers
*
560
1.23
ü
Paramo Shirt Long Sleeve
225
0.50
ü
    –  
ü
          2,717.00
     –  
ü
              482.00
Wet Weather
 WT (g)
 LB 
Have
Pack
PHD Alpamayo Smock
485
1.07
ü
Paclite WATERPROOF TROUSERS
x
*
300
0.66
ü
Seal Skinz
x
200
0.44
ü
              985.00
       –  
ü
              500.00
Base Layers
 WT (g)
 LB 
Have
Pack
SMARTWOOL TOP
*
250
0.55
ü
Merino Boxers
*
60
0.13
ü
Boxers 3/4
x
160
0.35
ü
Smartwool T
x
*
160
0.35
ü
              630.00
     –  
ü
              320.00
Hats & Gloves
 WT (g)
 LB 
Have
Pack
Montane Baseball Hat
x
*
60
0.13
ü
North Ridge Gloves (Waterproof)
x
*
200
0.44
ü
North Face Gloves Windproof
x
*
60
0.13
ü
BUFF
x
*
60
0.13
ü
EDZ Merino Beanie
x
*
60
0.13
ü
Buffalo Mitts
x
*
60
0.13
ü
MIDGE Hat
x
*
20
0.04
ü
              520.00
     –  
ü
              520.00
Spare Carry
 WT (g)
 LB 
Have
Pack
CROCS or probably alternative river shoes
x
380
0.84
ü
PHD Minimus Down Trousers
x
*
240
0.53
ü
Spare Socks x 2 (L & S) (40g+60g)
x
100
0.22
ü
Rab Polar Fleece
x
*
240
0.53
ü
Skinz Recovery Sock (for my left leg)
x
*
25
0.06
ü
              985.00
              985.00
Lighting & Torches
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
Petzl eLight Head Torch
x
*
35
0.08
ü
Zebra Torch (Bright)
x
*
50
0.11
ü
Torch Batteries
x
*
50
0.11
ü
Tent Hanging Light
x
*
10
0.02
ü
              145.00
     –  
ü
              145.00
NAVIGATION
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
Printed Maps and case
x
*
100
0.22
ü
COMPASS
x
*
30
0.07
ü
SMALL COMPASS (On Pack)
x
*
10
0.02
ü
     –  
ü
              140.00
     –   
              140.00
OPTIONAL
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
Micro Spikes ?
x
*
400
  0.88
ü
               400.00
       –  
ü
               400.00
FOOD
 WT (g)
 LB 
Have
Pack
Meals x 2
x
*
280
         0.62
ü
Jelly Babies
x
*
200
       0.44
ü
Chocolate Drinks
x
*
25
       0.06
ü
Thai Soups x 2
x
*
40
       0.09
ü
Chocolate Bars x 2
x
*
150
       0.33
ü
Energy Drinks
x
*
100
       0.22
ü
Fruit and Nuts
x
*
100
       0.22
ü
Cheese
x
*
100
       0.22
ü
Lucozade
x
*
200
       0.44
ü
Spirits
x
*
250
       0.55
ü
Buns and Soft Cheese
x
*
50
       0.11
ü
      1,495.00
           –  
ü
      1,495.00
Cooking Equipment
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
Jet Boil inc Gas
x
*
550
       1.21
ü
Titanium Spoon
x
*
11
       0.02
ü
Rubber Mug
x
*
40
       0.09
ü
Big Platypus 2 L
x
*
50
       0.11
ü
Delios Filter
x
*
50
       0.11
ü
Pan Cleaner
x
*
10
       0.02
ü
Lighter
x
*
20
       0.04
ü
          731.00
           –  
ü
          731.00
FIRST AID
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
SUN CREAM Factor 50 & Lip stick F 25
25
       0.06
ü
BLISTER PLASTER x 2
x
*
20
       0.04
ü
IBRUPROFEN x 16
x
*
10
         0.02
ü
Paracetamol
x
*
10
       0.02
ü
IBRUPROFEN GEL TUBE
x
*
40
       0.09
ü
Wide Micropore
x
*
50
         0.11
ü
Small Foot Tape
x
*
40
       0.09
ü
PhysioTape Part Roll
x
*
60
       0.13
ü
PLASTERS x 6
x
*
5
       0.01
ü
ZOVIRAX
x
*
5
       0.01
ü
FOOT TALC
x
*
40
       0.09
ü
SKIN CREAM (Film Pot)
x
25
       0.06
ü
TICK PULLER
x
*
0
           –  
ü
Steri Strips
x
*
0
           –  
ü
DRESSING
x
*
5
       0.01
ü
Tubigrip bandage
x
*
30
       0.07
ü
Anusol
x
*
25
       0.06
ü
Omeprazol
x
*
0
           –  
ü
Immodium Fast melts
x
*
0
           –  
ü
Tick and Midge Stuff
x
*
40
       0.09
ü
Foot Cream (Gerwol)
x
*
100
      0.22
ü
JUNGLE GEL
x
*
25
       0.06
ü
Small Penknife
x
*
20
       0.04
ü
          575.00
           –  
          550.00
WASHING KIT
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
MICROFIBRE TOWEL
x
*
125
       0.28
ü
Small Microfibre Flannel
x
*
40
       0.09
ü
TOOTHPASTE
x
*
20
       0.04
ü
TOOTHBRUSH
x
*
10
       0.02
ü
TOILET PAPER
x
*
10
       0.02
ü
SMALL GEL SOAP
x
*
25
       0.06
ü
Foot Cream
x
*
15
       0.03
ü
WAX POT (Small)
x
*
25
       0.06
ü
Nail Scissors
x
*
25
       0.06
ü
Lighter
x
*
20
       0.04
ü
Vaseline
x
*
15
       0.03
ü
          330.00
           –  
ü
          330.00
Miscellaneous + Elec
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
Bear
x
*
10
       0.02
ü
Leatherman
x
*
110
       0.24
ü
Monocular
x
*
80
       0.18
ü
Pentax Optio + batteries & Case
x
*
340
       0.75
ü
Harmonica
x
*
80
       0.18
ü
Mini Speaker
x
*
60
       0.13
ü
Phone Charger
x
*
75
       0.17
ü
Mobile Phone + Batteries
x
*
420
       0.92
ü
Rail Tickets
x
*
5
       0.01
ü
Accommodation Booking
x
*
15
       0.03
ü
Cards (Cash) & Wproof case
x
*
20
       0.04
ü
READING GLASSES & Case
x
*
35
       0.08
ü
      1,250.00
           –  
ü
      1,250.00
CARRY WEIGHTS
 (g)
 KG
 LB
Walking
1,975.00
1.98
4.35
Tent & Sleeping
4,040.00
4.04
8.89
CLOTHING
482.00
0.48
1.06
Wet Weather
500.00
0.50
1.10
Base Layers
320.00
0.32
0.70
Hats & Gloves
520.00
0.52
1.14
Spare Carry
985.00
0.99
2.17
Lighting & Torches
145.00
0.15
0.32
NAVIGATION
140.00
0.14
0.31
FOOD
1,495.00
1.50
3.29
Cooking Equipment
731.00
0.73
1.61
FIRST AID
550.00
0.55
1.21
WASHING KIT
330.00
0.33
0.73
Miscellaneous + Elec
1,250.00
1.25
2.75
OPTIONAL
*
400.00
0.40
0.88
0.00
0.00
TOTAL
           13,863.00
                 13.86
                 30.50
That could change between now and next Tuesday.
BUT I am thinking mainly NOT.
Unless I can persuade Lucy to let me borrow her SUPER DUPER DOWN sleeping bag, that she used in the Himalayas, and that I paid a lot of money to have refurbished and cleaned.
WELL..
That ain’t gonna happen is it.

TGOC 2014 KIT LIST (And that is a definite maybe)

This may or May NOT be a the starting kit list for the TGOC this May.
BUT, if it isn’t, then it will be close

OH. Yes, the Music is BACK!
Jeff Beck Declan

I have NOT itemised my medical and Wash kit.
It is the usual stuff that I NEED.

Walking
 WT (g)
 LB
RUCKSACK – Osprey Exos 46
975
 2.15
RUCKSACK COVER
100
 0.22
DRY SACKS (Assorted)
175
 0.39
POLES – Leki Carbon Titanium
520
 1.14
SIT MAT
100
 0.22
Sleeping & Camp
 WT (g)
 LB
TENT Wendy Warmlite 2R inc Pegs
1,600
 3.52
Marmot Arroyo SLEEPING BAG (inc Silk Liner)
800
 1.76
NEO Air
375
 0.83
Goose Feet Down Socks
30
 0.07
Goosefeet Down Bootie Covers
60
 0.13
PHD Down Hat
32
 0.07
MLD Ultralight Bivvy Bag`
200
 0.44
    –  
CLOTHING
 WT (g)
 LB 
Shoes ECCO Biom Ultras (GTX Version)
750
 1.65
Lightweight OMM Gaiters
120
 0.26
MONTANE WINDPROOF
32
 0.07
PHD Thinsulate Smock
450
 0.99
X SOCKS Trekking (Wearing)
60
 0.13
MONTANE TERRA PANTS (Cut Offs)
350
 0.77
Paramo Shirt Short Sleeve
150
 0.33
Montane Wind Shirt
32
 0.07
    –  
Wet Weather
 WT (g)
 LB 
PHD Alpamayo Smock
485
 1.07
Berghaus Paclite Trousers
300
 0.66
Seal Skinz Trekking Socks
200
 0.44
    –  
Base Layers
 WT (g)
 LB 
Helly Hansen SMARTWOOL TOP
250
 0.55
Boxers Long
100
 0.22
Kathmandu Merino BOXERS x 2
120
 0.26
EDZ Smartwool Teeshirt
160
 0.35
    –  
Hats & Gloves
 WT (g)
 LB 
Montane Baseball Hat
60
 0.13
North Ridge Gloves (Waterproof)
200
 0.44
North Face Gloves Windproof
40
 0.09
BUFF
60
 0.13
Buffalo Mitts
60
 0.13
MIDGE Hat
20
 0.04
EDZ Merino Beanie
60
 0.13
Spare Carry
 WT (g)
 LB 
HiTec Zuuk Camp & River Shoes
400
 0.88
x Socks x 2 (L & S) (40g+60g)
100
 0.22
Montane Gilet or Rab Microfleece
240
 0.53
Ron Hill Tracksters ??
220
 0.48
Skinz Sock (For My Left Calf)
25
 0.06
Lighting & Torches
 WT (g)
 LB
Petzl eLight Head Torch
35
 0.08
Zebra Torch (Bright)
50
 0.11
Torch Batteries (C032)
50
 0.11
Tiny Tent Hanging Light
10
 0.02
    –  
NAVIGATION
 WT (g)
 LB
Printed Maps and case
160
 0.35
COMPASS
30
 0.07
SMALL COMPASS (On Pack)
10
 0.02
A5 MAP CASE
60
 0.13
    –  
OPTIONAL
 WT (g)
 LB
Micro Spikes ?
400
 0.88
    –  
Miscellaneous + Elec
 WT (g)
 LB
Bear
10
      0.02
Leatherman
100
      0.22
Monocular
80
      0.18
NX 10 Camera + Case & Batteries
1,000
      2.20
Harmonica
80
      0.18
Mini Speaker
60
      0.13
Phone Charger
75
      0.17
Mobile Phone + Batteries
420
      0.92
Spare Music + Phone + Batt
140
      0.31
Rail Tickets
5
      0.01
Accommodation Booking
15
      0.03
Cards (Cash) & Wproof case
20
      0.04
Small Biro
5
      0.01
READING GLASSES & Case
35
      0.08
         –  
WASHING KIT
 WT (g)
 LB
MICROFIBRE TOWEL
125
      0.28
Small Microfibre Flannel
40
      0.09
TOOTHPASTE
20
      0.04
TOOTHBRUSH
10
      0.02
TOILET PAPER
10
      0.02
SMALL GEL SOAP
25
      0.06
Foot Cream
15
      0.03
WAX POT (Small)
25
      0.06
Nail Scissors
25
      0.06
Lighter
20
      0.04
Vaseline
15
      0.03
         –  
Cooking Equipment
 WT (g)
 LB
Jet Boil inc Gas
550
      1.21
Spare Gas 110
140
      0.31
Titanium Spoon
11
      0.02
Rubber Mug
40
      0.09
SMALL PLATYPUS 1L
30
      0.07
Big Platypus 2 L
50
      0.11
Sawyer Mini Water Filter
65
      0.14
Pan Cleaner
10
      0.02
Lighter
20
      0.04
         –  
FOOD
 WT (g)
 LB 
Boil in Bag Meals x 4 (Mountain Trails)
560
      1.23
Jelly Babies
250
      0.55
Instant Chocolate Drinks
66
      0.15
Thai Soups x 4
80
      0.18
Chocolate Bars x 2
200
      0.44
Energy Drinks
100
      0.22
Fruit and Nuts & Cereal
200
      0.44
Cheese
200
      0.44
Lucozade
250
      0.55
Whisky & Sloe Gin (assorted)
400
      0.88
Bread Buns
50
      0.11
         –  

Medical Kit comes in at

grams
Kg
LB
FIRST AID
685.00
0.69
1.51

Total Weights Summary

WEIGHTS
 (g)
 KG
 LB
Walking
1,350.00
1.35
2.97
Sleeping
3,097.00
3.10
6.81
CLOTHING
514.00
0.51
1.13
Wet Weather
500.00
0.50
1.10
Base Layers
280.00
0.28
0.62
Hats & Gloves
500.00
0.50
1.10
Spare Carry
985.00
0.99
2.17
Lighting & Torches
145.00
0.15
0.32
NAVIGATION
260.00
0.26
0.57
FOOD
2,356.00
2.36
5.18
Cooking Equipment
916.00
0.92
2.02
FIRST AID
685.00
0.69
1.51
WASHING KIT
330.00
0.33
0.73
Miscellaneous + Elec
2,045.00
2.05
4.50
OPTIONAL
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
TOTAL
         13,963.00
               13.96
               30.72

I may well have a play with this before the event and get it down a bit.
4 Days in Cairngorms and a few days in lakes ought to rationalize it.

The BIG weight is the camera and batteries at 1kg
Plus medical stuff (which should decrease)
The Food is 4 days and so decreasing load

WE WILL REVISIT THIS LIST!!!!

Have a listen to THIS
And IF you enjoyed that bit of Jeff Beck.

Jeff Beck – A Day In The Life

AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED IT’S NEARLY ALL PANTS

Well, nearly all of it.


PANTS, it is NOT a simple topic, when you are looking at long distance multi day hikes.


Way way back in 2006, I walked with my then next door neighbour on the TGO.


Nick did NOT have suitable pants.
He had cotton pants.
Normal every day cotton pants.
Cotton pants that get damp near your bits.
Cotton that rubs and chaffs and generally makes things raw and rather less than pleasant.


Now, thankfully, due to an element of decency
and quite honesty having NO desire to photograph it,
I have NO images of Nick’s tender and painful bits.

But trust me, you do not want this to happen to you.


EVER


I still have vivid memories and I may well be scared for life.


So back to pants.


I have tried a whole variety of pants over the years, in all shapes and sizes.
I will clarify that shortly.
What I mean is of course all styles.
My size has remained fairly stable (I’ll stop there because it will descend into smut), 
if not by me, by someone else.


So this is really to get opinions and other comments in general on pants and general comfort of the nether regions.
As a bloke, I cannot really comment on women’s undergarments.
At least I am not going to do it here.


So over the years I have used a variety of pants for walking.

One of my earliest proper walking pants was the HH ones.
BUT… They have no legs and I prefer legs

I used these for a couple of years (between washes).
Got them from Blacks I think.
For me, they are a perfect length.
About midway between knee and top bits.
Tactel, cool and I still use them for running.(underneath tracksters)

These are Merino Icebreaker 200 3/4.
I used them on the Challenge once,
but they were just too hot.
I now take them as thermals for sleeping in.
sometimes.
They are perfect for the job.
Can be worn under trousers if it is bloody cold.
And weigh a bit less than full length ones.

These are Katmandu Smartwool.
Not quite long enough in the leg for me, but
good for warmer days.
They did the whole of last years challenge.
WELL, that is until Braemar where I had a major elastic malfunction.
Not very supportive that

I like Paramo stuff, and currently have 2 paramo shirts,(one of which will be accompanying me this year), and also a Paramo 3rd Element Jacket.
Anyway, after the elastic issue in Braemar I got these.
They are OK, but for me the worst of the lot here.
And yes, they are inside out in the photo
And No, that is not why I found them uncomfortable

My Current favourites are these Smartwool ones.
At last a pair that are the correct leg length for me.
And Merino wool.
So this year I will be taking these and the 3/4 bottoms for the tent.
Which probably means the elastic will fail somewhere.
I hope not.



So that is it for pants for now.
I am sure others will have their favourites.


These are mine, what are yours?


And to add a couple of other recent photo’s of places into the mill, just because I like them, and it’s my blog.

Swaffham Prior Church

Close Encounter Clouds near Reach

More Fen Cloud Formations

OK. last clouds picture.
Today
You cannot beat a nice Cumulonimbus

Quy nearing dusk

One of my favourite river stretches at Lode.
The colours of a Spring evening


And today’s bit of music is one of my all time favourite songs from the man
David Cosby and Graham Nash, Page 43








Make the most of your life is the message