TGOC KIT LIST 2014 (What to leave out)

I really could do with getting my pack weight down to 26lb (inc)

But I am so struggling, what with the need for a start with 4 days food on board

The table is below with key, explaining what the tables show.

Any suggestions for what to leave out, gratefully pondered on…..

Key x = Carried Summary Top=Total
w = Wear Bottom=Carried
* = Taking
Walking  WT (g)  LB Have Pack
RUCKSACK – Osprey Exos 46 x * 1,100  2.42
RUCKSACK COVER x * 100  0.22
DRY SACKS (Assorted) x * 175  0.39
POLES – Leki Carbon Titanium * 520  1.14
SIT MAT x * 100  0.22                 1,995.00
    –                 1,475.00
Sleeping  WT (g)  LB Have Pack
Trailstar + Oookstar + Extra Pegs & Cuben GS x * 1,400  3.08
Marmot Arroyo SLEEPING BAG + Silk Liner) x * 800  1.76
NEO Air x * 375  0.83
Goose Feet Down Socks x * 30  0.07
Goosefeet Down Bootie Camp Covers x * 60  0.13
PHD Down Hat x * 32  0.07
MLD Ultralight Bivvy Bag` x * 200  0.44                 2,897.00
     –                 2,897.00
CLOTHING  WT (g)  LB  Have Pack
Shoes (Ecco Biom Ultras) w * 750  1.65 Only 1 of these
Shoes (Innov 8 Roclites 318 GTX) * 750  1.65
Lightweight OMM Gaiters x * 120  0.26
MONTANE WINDPROOF x * 102  0.22
PHD Minumus Down Jacket x * 375  0.83
X SOCKS Trekking (Wearing) w 60  0.13
MONTANE TERRA PANTS (Cut Offs) w * 350  0.77
Montane Wind Shirt x * 102  0.22                 2,609.00
     –                    699.00
Wet Weather  WT (g)  LB  Have Pack
PHD Alpamayo Smock * 485  1.07
Berghaus Paclite Trousers x * 300  0.66
Seal Skinz Trekking Socks x * 200  0.44                    985.00
     –                    500.00
Base Layers  WT (g)  LB  Have Pack
Helly Hansen SMARTWOOL TOP w * 250  0.55
Boxers Long w * 100  0.22
Katmandu Merino BOXERS x 2 x * 120  0.26
     –                    470.00
     –                    120.00
Hats & Gloves  WT (g)  LB  Have Pack
Montane Baseball Hat w * 60  0.13
North Ridge Gloves (Waterproof) x * 200  0.44
North Face Gloves Windproof x * 40  0.09
BUFF x * 60  0.13
Buffalo Mitts x * 60  0.13
MIDGE Hat x * 20  0.04                    500.00
EDZ Merino Beanie x * 60  0.13                    440.00
Spare Carry  WT (g)  LB  Have Pack
HiTec Zuuk Camp & River Shoes x 400  0.88
x Socks x 2 (L & S) (40g+60g) x 100  0.22
Montane Gilet x * 240  0.53
Berghaus Smartwool Top (Spare) x * 200  0.44
Ron Hill Tracksters ?? x * 220  0.48
Skinz Sock (For My Left Calf) x * 25  0.06                 1,185.00
                   685.00
Lighting & Torches  WT (g)  LB Have Pack
Petzl eLight Head Torch x * 35  0.08
Zebra Torch (Bright) x * 50  0.11
Torch Batteries (C032) x * 50  0.11
Tiny Tent Hanging Light x * 20  0.04                    155.00
     –                    155.00
NAVIGATION  WT (g)  LB Have Pack
Printed Maps and case x * 160  0.35
COMPASS x * 30  0.07
SMALL COMPASS (On Pack) x * 10  0.02                    200.00
     –                    200.00
OPTIONAL  WT (g)  LB Have Pack
Pocket Rocket x     86.00  0.19
250g Gas x   250.00  0.55
Primus Wind Shield x     59.00  0.13
1 Litre Titanium Pot x   110.00  0.24
Micro Spikes ? 400  0.88                    400.00
     –                             –  
FOOD  WT (g)  LB  Have Pack
Boil in Bag Meals x 4 (Mountain Trails) x * 560        1.23
Jelly Babies x * 250        0.55
Instant Chocolate Drinks x * 66        0.15
Thai Soups x 4 x * 80        0.18
Chocolate x * 200        0.44
Ginger x * 100        0.22
Fruit and Nuts & Cereal x * 200        0.44
Cheese x * 200        0.44
Squirty Drink Stuff x * 50        0.11
Flapjack x * 100        0.22
Water x * 300        0.66
Whisky & Sloe Gin (assorted) x * 400        0.88
Bread Buns x * 50        0.11              2,556.00
           –              2,556.00
Cooking Equipment  WT (g)  LB Have Pack
Jet Boil inc Gas x * 550        1.21
Spare Gas 110 x * 140        0.31
Titanium Spoon x * 11        0.02
Small Titanium Mug x * 70        0.15
SMALL PLATYPUS 1L x * 30        0.07
Big Platypus 2 L x * 50        0.11
Sawyer Mini Water Filter x * 65        0.14
Pan Cleaner x * 10        0.02
Lighter x * 20        0.04                 946.00
           –                 946.00
FIRST AID  WT (g)  LB Have Pack
SUN CREAM Factor 50 x * 25        0.06
BLISTER PLASTER x 2 x * 20        0.04
NEW SKIN x * 20        0.04
IBRUPROFEN x 16 x * 10        0.02
Paracetamol x * 10        0.02
IBRUPROFEN GEL TUBE x * 40        0.09
Wide Foot Tape x * 80        0.18
Small Foot Tape x * 40        0.09
PhysioTape Roll (5m) x * 120        0.26
PLASTERS x 6 x * 5        0.01
ZOVIRAX x * 5        0.01
FOOT TALC x * 40        0.09
TICK PULLER x * 0            –
Steri Strips x * 0            –
DRESSING x * 5      0.01
Tubigrip bandage x * 30        0.07
Anusol x * 25        0.06
Omeprazol x * 0            –
Immodium Fast melts x * 0            –
Tick and Midge Stuff x * 40        0.09
Foot Cream (Gerwol) x * 100         0.22
JUNGLE GEL x * 25        0.06
Small Penknife (inc scissors) x * 20        0.04                 685.00
             –                 660.00
WASHING KIT  WT (g)  LB Have Pack
MICROFIBRE TOWEL x * 125        0.28
Small Microfibre Flannel x * 40        0.09
TOOTHPASTE x * 20        0.04
TOOTHBRUSH x * 10        0.02
TOILET PAPER x * 10        0.02
SMALL GEL SOAP x * 25         0.06
Foot Cream x * 15        0.03
WAX POT (Small) x * 25        0.06
Nail Scissors x * 25        0.06
Lighter x * 20        0.04
Vaseline x * 15        0.03                 330.00
           –                 330.00
Miscellaneous + Elec  WT (g)  LB Have Pack
Leatherman x * 100        0.22
NX 10 Camera + Case & Batteries x * 1,100        2.42
Mini Speaker x * 60        0.13
Phone Charger x * 75        0.17
Mobile Phone + Batteries x * 420        0.92
Spare Music + Phone + Batt x * 140        0.31
Rail Tickets x * 5        0.01
Accommodation Booking x * 15        0.03
Cards (Cash) & Wproof case x * 20        0.04
Small Biro x * 5        0.01
READING GLASSES & Case x * 35        0.08              1,975.00
           – ü              1,975.00

The optional list shows alternative cooking equipment to the Jet Boil.
Although I like the Jetboil

The sections summarises the sections

WEIGHTS  (g)  KG  LB
Walking 1,475.00 1.48 3.25
Sleeping 2,897.00 2.90 6.37
CLOTHING 699.00 0.70 1.54
Wet Weather 500.00 0.50 1.10
Base Layers 120.00 0.12 0.26
Hats & Gloves 440.00 0.44 0.97
Spare Carry 685.00 0.69 1.51
Lighting & Torches 155.00 0.16 0.34
NAVIGATION 200.00 0.20 0.44
FOOD 2,556.00 2.56 5.62
Cooking Equipment 946.00 0.95 2.08
FIRST AID 660.00 0.66 1.45
WASHING KIT 330.00 0.33 0.73
Miscellaneous + Elec 1,975.00 1.98 4.35
OPTIONAL 0.00 0.00 0.00
0.00 0.00
TOTAL 13,638.0 13.64 30.00

SO, how to lose another 4lb in pack weight?

That is carried pack weight.

Admittedly, this will fluctuate depending upon food eaten, water carried, and clothing worn or removed.

But it is may, and in recent years we have had all seasons.

SOME things cannot be omitted OK.

Jelly Babies, Whisky & Sloe Gin (MUST STAY)

And the Mini Speaker  (Bothy Parties!!)

Maybe the spare Music Phone and different cooking stuff will save weight.
That is about 250g (½ lb)

Yes, I could take a much lighter camera, BUT photographs are an integral part of my walking, and the camera will be on the belt loop not in the pack.

See how hard this is.

I would go with 28lb (but the BIG camera must stay) at a pinch.

SO, that means I need to lose a minimum of 2lb safely!!!

 

ECCO BIOM TERRAIN II (A First Outing Review)

I had been told that these where good for wider feet, and my old divers boots were NOT going to happen, so I really needed some NEW boots for the Monadhliath Trip.
Thanks to Emma at ECCO who got me a pair in time to go, I took off in the
Brand NEW ECCO BIOM Terrain II’s to head to Newtonmore and then a small walk round to Aviemore.

Not a huge trip, but certainly enough to give them a good work over.

The BIOM Terrain II’s are made from Yak Leather with a Gortex Liner
a reinforced toecap and hard wearing Kevlar Rand.
They are designed after research on bio mechanical foot movement, and the intention is for both functionality and comfort.

ECCO BIOM Terrain II

Ecco Technical Info

  • Rugged, lace-up Boots, featuring ECCO’s Biom technology, for natural motion walking and hiking
  • Uppers of Yak leather are at least three times stronger than standard cow hide
  • Gore-tex® lining is breathable and guaranteed to keep your feet dry, even during extended wear
  • Biom technology and low-to-the-ground construction delivers a natual motion experience and full-length foot support
  • Full length foot support created using an anatomically-designed last shape, based on 2,500 different foot scans, for optimum fit
  • Direct-injected, Polyurethane (PU) midsole is lightweight and flexible
  • Rubber sole provides great traction, grip and is hard-wearing

SO HOW DID THEY DO?

Straight from the box they were comfortable, and I was going to wear them on a 3 day hike without any bedding in.

The inner does feel a bit soft, but in fairness to testing, I decided to go with it and see how it got on, rather than swapping for my usual Green Or Blue Superfeet inner

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I wore them on them train on the way up, and then with pack (30lb) on the short walk from Kingussie to Newtonmore.
They were comfortable and do not feel heavy despite being a size 46 EU to fit my big feet.

Which brings me to sizes.

I am a UK 11 which is an EU 45.5

ECCO do not do a real UK 11 and this means that they are ½ an EU size over (shame)

They fitted OK though, but I had to wear a pair of liner socks and then my fluffy Brigdale socks, whereas I normally just wear the one pair of socks.
Still the liner socks help with keeping the foot drier, and stop sock rubbing so all is good there.
Still be nice to get a REAL UK 11 though.
Especially as I have 1 foot ½ a size bigger, so My Right Boot is really an EU size too big.

The next day we headed into the hills.
The weather was errrr. Scottish, so we had Wind, Rain, bog and snow underfoot, as well as heather bashing, Land Rover Track rubble etc etc etc.

I did have to fiddle a bit with the laces to get them right, but after that they worked well, in all conditions and in all terrain, both Up and down hill.
For me they were comfortable.
They feel light on the feet for boots (OK, MID’s), and although I still prefer shoes, if I have to wear boots, then these will do for me.

A few shots of them follow

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Heading out at the start

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On Top Of Fhreiceadain

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Along the Dulnain

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Back Home

As well as comfort, they remained waterproof throughout.
The tops do look like they are wetting through when they get into water, but none of this gets into the inner.

There was a bit of moisture on the inside at the end of the day, but this was just sweat heat from socks, and only really affected the tip of the inner, that felt very very slightly damp. Going to happen in all Gortex lined boots.

At this stage, I cannot really do a long term test but there is no sign of wear anywhere.
Need another 6 months to see what happens there

SO, in conclusion (at this point)

  • GOOD PURCHASE, glad I got them (especially if you have broad feet)
  • Comfort – very comfortable straight from the box
    Good on all Terrains, didn’t feel rocks on LRT’s and good all round grip
  • Lacing System – I thought this worked well, better than hoops.
    I had no issue with the laces slipping either.
  • Inners – Worked fine but I need a bit more heel cup support due to ½ size EU too big (I will go to my Superfeet Green from now on)
    Also, the superfeet do not hold any moisture from sweat at all.
  • Waterproof  –  Appear to be
  • Size – Good for me, BUT would have really liked a 45.5 proper UK 11
  • Style and Design – I like them (some will not like the Green, but I think it is good)
  • Price – You can get cheaper boots, but in some respects you get what you pay for.

You can read the TGO review of them HERE

Now I am rather looking forward to testing the ECCO BIOM ULTRA Gortex GTX shoes.

EccoUltra

Luxe (sil hexPeak) in the Field

2nd to 4th April 2014

So I finally got to take the Luxe sil hexPeak out into the fields for a test.
Now, this could have been just to a local location, but it wasn’t.
It went to the Monadhliath Mountains between Newtonmore and Aviemore.
It was thus going to encounter wind and rain.

Since I got it, as you know, I have had a couple of issues.
Mainly with the inner tie points.
I have made these changes and also repairs myself, because rather than just send it straight back, I wanted to test it.
Also, since I have already seam sealed it with my own sealer, and also changed all of the main tent guys to 3mm, and sewn on the top loop properly, I did not want to have to go through all that with a NEW replacement.
So, I have NOT hassled Bob (yet), and taken it out to properly check.

It is actually going off to the lake District again next week, for a further test.
At the time of writing, it is ok.

So, first the repairs.

Note that although slightly annoying, these were minor repairs to slightly iffy stitching (predominantly on the inner tie points), and not fundamental flaws

The tie points on the inner were coming loose and the stitching pulling away on 3 of the ties.
Plus the outer loop on the top of the main tent.

These have been repaired by hand sewing, and seam sealing.
OK, the neatness of the sewing is not good, but the seams and tie points are now held on, and withstood test 1.

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One of the original inner ties

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Another repair and seal

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Biggest repair was on the back tie. Here I have also added 3mm shock cord to stop so much strain being put on the tie point

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Original stitching is NOT straight, and in some cases, also NOT even. This is on both inner and in places the outer,

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Tie point had come away at edge on bottom, so I have re-sewn it on, and sealed it with silicon

As well as repairs, I have also added shock cord onto all the guy line of the inner.
This means that when they are tensioned up and especially in wind, the give is in the elasticated shock chord rather than against the tie join.
Rather than replace all the cord as I did on the main tent, I have just added an elastic loop at the end on a running knot.
This is fixed to the peg, and then the tensioner is adjusted as normal, but now the tension pulls to a triangle and this makes for a better shape and a more upright tub.

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When putting the tent up, it is important that you first secure the main 4 side points and the mid points, that forms the inner rectangle.
I have attached the black ties that come with the tent, and these help to get the width about right, before you put in the poles.

Then add the pole via the door.
I keep the door partly zipped.
Get the poles the correct height, and then peg the front and the back.
You will probably have to fiddle with peg positions to get it correct.

I initially use a single pole at 140 (so set to 145) Remember 5 cm is in the ground!!!!
(and NOTE, most poles only go to 135 which in my opinion is NOT high enough).

BUT before I tension down the outer properly, I use a second pole of the same height.
In a high wind, I think it is essential to double pole this tent.
In fact, I think it is necessary to double pole it ALWAYS.
You can either use longer than normal poles.

I use Black Diamond Syncline
Or get a specialist Pole from Bob.
Or get a Pole Extender from Bob either 14 or 16 (Not available for Flick Lock Poles at the moment)
However they will be coming soon.

Once the Outer is up correctly, you can easily put in the inner.

Best method (I have found) is to do the following sequence.

  1. Attach the front most inner guys
  2. Use a small peg on the front outers where the hoops are, and also in the middle.
    This is personal choice bot works for me.
  3. Now attach the back mid point and then the back outers
  4. If you can tension them up form inside
  5. Attach the inner to the top hook
    Can be fiddly with 2 poles so I added a bit extra coloured cord to the hook to be able to pull it down.
  6. Fine tune the tension on the inner, and check the tension on the outer

And with that done, I have found the tent a super little Pyramid shelter
Strong and stable in wind.
Waterproof
Next to NO condensation.
Good amount of room for me, and a BIG porch area.
I take a small groundsheet for that.

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Pitched along Dulnain in Monadhliath. A small amount of ripples in sides before final tensioning, but she was strong in wind and rain later that night. Didn’t budge at all.

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Main guy line ropes changed to 3mm. I have colored them as well. Back Blue, Back sides RED, Mid points light blue, Front 3 Yellow. Makes it much easier to work out which are which in higher winds

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Pitched alongside 2 Trailstars. She looks good.

Inside the tent, there is ample room in the porch, and for me at just over 5′ 10″ there is good room in both porch area and also inside the inner, to get all my gear in easily, and also cook.

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Double poles (no inner). Sorry about the thumb in the photo

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Inside with inner down

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Looking up with inner attached

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Inner from inside porch (me lying in porch)

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Looking inside inner through door

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Plenty of space in porch area. Could easily sleep a second person there in a bivi bag

It rained quite a lot that night, and even though the inner is half mesh all round, I was warm in just an old sleeping bag that only goes down to just above zero.

The tent was rock solid, and once pitched correctly, the inner did not touch the outer.
Indeed not only that, but there was NO condensation at all inside the outer, and I do get that on my MLD Trailstar, and on my Warmlite 2R

Weight??

The spec on Bob’s site is approx 1100g

I would say, that with Change of Guy lines, robust seam sealing, and bigger better pegs, plus a bit of extra guy line (just in case) it comes in at closer to 1550 g in my spec.
I also added some sil nylon groundsheet for the front, and a couple of spare pegs just in case, and mine came in at approx 1700g 

So, in conclusion ……

This for the money, (£159.00) from Bob, appears to be a pretty good little shelter, which would easily do as a single skin with a groundsheet and bivi bag.

However, Luxe need to look into the manufacturing standards on the inner, and improve them for peace of mind.

Definitely double pole it, and if you have shorter poles, then get an extender from Bob, or a purpose built Pole.
I prefer the poles method because I don’t want to carry another pole equivalent just to put a tent up

I would also like to see 3 mm cord all round, and maybe the inner done with 2 mm shock cord rather than static cord.

Finally, better pegs. The purple 4.5″ (approx) pegs that come with it are just too short.
You need 6″ decent pegs minimum.
I used

MSR Blizzard stake at the back

MSRBlizzard
and
CLAM CLEATS Tornado pegs on the rest.
I also used some of Bobs small titanium skewers to peg the inner at the front.

Now, with all those things fixed and done this would be a great little budget shelter.

It is NOT a Trailstar (with an Oookstar inner)
It is NOT a Golite Shangri-La 3

But if you want a good value tent, it is definitely worth a look.
But check out the sewing.

Will I be taking it on the TGOC this year?

NO!

Not because of the tent, but because I own a Trailstar and a Warmlite,
and I want to use this some more on shorter trips.

But, if I did NOT have a tent, and wanted to have a go with a Pyramid Tent, and my budget would NOT run to MLD or GoLite Gear costs, I most definitely would.

In fact, as I said, it is off to the Lake District next weekend.

 

Aviemore Probable Gear List

So, looking at conditions and weather, this is the probable gear list for Aviemore trip next week.

Looking at weather and conditions on the ground (we are NOT going very HIGH, since we are going up into the Monadhliath rather than the Cairngorms, I have decided to take some of the heavier  and warmer stuff.

The weights are carried weight and exclude worn clothing and also boots, since they are on my feet

The BOOTS might change depending or NOT on me acquiring a pair of these to use.

ECCO BIOM Terrain Boots

Boots should arrive on Monday….

They didn’t have those ones available, so the rather lovely Emma at ECCO, is sending me these ECCO Terrain 2’s

Same Boot, slight difference

But without that eventuality, here is the currently intended Kit List

I would like to go with a warmer bag (see later), but at the moment I don’t have anything warmer, so I will probably fluff up the old Rolling Clouds in the Tumble Dryer and go with that PLUS the extra Down Clothing, which will kick the temp rating do well below 0, especially on the Exped Mat.

Walking
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
Golite Quest 65L RUCKSACK
x
*
1,600
3.52
ü
RUCKSACK COVER
x
*
100
0.22
ü
DRY SACKS
x
*
175
0.39
ü
Black Diamond Synchline Poles (145)
575
1.27
ü
SIT MAT
x
*
100
0.22
ü
           2,550.00
     –  
ü
          1,975.00
Tent & Sleeping
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
sil Hex Peak Tent (and inner) & Extra Pegs
x
*
1,800
3.96
ü
Old Stormlite Rolling Clouds 500 Bag
x
*
1,250
2.75
ü
Exped 7 Down filled sleeping Mat
x
*
700
1.54
ü
Goosefeet Down Socks
x
*
30
0.07
ü
Goosefeet Down Bootie covers for camp
x
*
60
0.13
ü
MLD Ultralight Bivvy Bag
x
+
200
0.44
ü
           4,040.00
     –  
ü
           4,040.00
CLOTHING
 WT (g)
 LB 
Have
Pack
Ecco Biom Terrain II Mid Boots (Yak Leather)
1200
 2.60
ü
Heavy Gaiter
190
0.42
ü
MONTAINE WINDPROOF
x
*
32
0.07
ü
PHD Thinsulate Pullover
x
*
450
0.99
ü
SOCKS Wear
60
0.13
ü
North Face Apex Trousers
*
560
1.23
ü
Paramo Shirt Long Sleeve
225
0.50
ü
    –  
ü
          2,717.00
     –  
ü
              482.00
Wet Weather
 WT (g)
 LB 
Have
Pack
PHD Alpamayo Smock
485
1.07
ü
Paclite WATERPROOF TROUSERS
x
*
300
0.66
ü
Seal Skinz
x
200
0.44
ü
              985.00
       –  
ü
              500.00
Base Layers
 WT (g)
 LB 
Have
Pack
SMARTWOOL TOP
*
250
0.55
ü
Merino Boxers
*
60
0.13
ü
Boxers 3/4
x
160
0.35
ü
Smartwool T
x
*
160
0.35
ü
              630.00
     –  
ü
              320.00
Hats & Gloves
 WT (g)
 LB 
Have
Pack
Montane Baseball Hat
x
*
60
0.13
ü
North Ridge Gloves (Waterproof)
x
*
200
0.44
ü
North Face Gloves Windproof
x
*
60
0.13
ü
BUFF
x
*
60
0.13
ü
EDZ Merino Beanie
x
*
60
0.13
ü
Buffalo Mitts
x
*
60
0.13
ü
MIDGE Hat
x
*
20
0.04
ü
              520.00
     –  
ü
              520.00
Spare Carry
 WT (g)
 LB 
Have
Pack
CROCS or probably alternative river shoes
x
380
0.84
ü
PHD Minimus Down Trousers
x
*
240
0.53
ü
Spare Socks x 2 (L & S) (40g+60g)
x
100
0.22
ü
Rab Polar Fleece
x
*
240
0.53
ü
Skinz Recovery Sock (for my left leg)
x
*
25
0.06
ü
              985.00
              985.00
Lighting & Torches
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
Petzl eLight Head Torch
x
*
35
0.08
ü
Zebra Torch (Bright)
x
*
50
0.11
ü
Torch Batteries
x
*
50
0.11
ü
Tent Hanging Light
x
*
10
0.02
ü
              145.00
     –  
ü
              145.00
NAVIGATION
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
Printed Maps and case
x
*
100
0.22
ü
COMPASS
x
*
30
0.07
ü
SMALL COMPASS (On Pack)
x
*
10
0.02
ü
     –  
ü
              140.00
     –   
              140.00
OPTIONAL
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
Micro Spikes ?
x
*
400
  0.88
ü
               400.00
       –  
ü
               400.00
FOOD
 WT (g)
 LB 
Have
Pack
Meals x 2
x
*
280
         0.62
ü
Jelly Babies
x
*
200
       0.44
ü
Chocolate Drinks
x
*
25
       0.06
ü
Thai Soups x 2
x
*
40
       0.09
ü
Chocolate Bars x 2
x
*
150
       0.33
ü
Energy Drinks
x
*
100
       0.22
ü
Fruit and Nuts
x
*
100
       0.22
ü
Cheese
x
*
100
       0.22
ü
Lucozade
x
*
200
       0.44
ü
Spirits
x
*
250
       0.55
ü
Buns and Soft Cheese
x
*
50
       0.11
ü
      1,495.00
           –  
ü
      1,495.00
Cooking Equipment
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
Jet Boil inc Gas
x
*
550
       1.21
ü
Titanium Spoon
x
*
11
       0.02
ü
Rubber Mug
x
*
40
       0.09
ü
Big Platypus 2 L
x
*
50
       0.11
ü
Delios Filter
x
*
50
       0.11
ü
Pan Cleaner
x
*
10
       0.02
ü
Lighter
x
*
20
       0.04
ü
          731.00
           –  
ü
          731.00
FIRST AID
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
SUN CREAM Factor 50 & Lip stick F 25
25
       0.06
ü
BLISTER PLASTER x 2
x
*
20
       0.04
ü
IBRUPROFEN x 16
x
*
10
         0.02
ü
Paracetamol
x
*
10
       0.02
ü
IBRUPROFEN GEL TUBE
x
*
40
       0.09
ü
Wide Micropore
x
*
50
         0.11
ü
Small Foot Tape
x
*
40
       0.09
ü
PhysioTape Part Roll
x
*
60
       0.13
ü
PLASTERS x 6
x
*
5
       0.01
ü
ZOVIRAX
x
*
5
       0.01
ü
FOOT TALC
x
*
40
       0.09
ü
SKIN CREAM (Film Pot)
x
25
       0.06
ü
TICK PULLER
x
*
0
           –  
ü
Steri Strips
x
*
0
           –  
ü
DRESSING
x
*
5
       0.01
ü
Tubigrip bandage
x
*
30
       0.07
ü
Anusol
x
*
25
       0.06
ü
Omeprazol
x
*
0
           –  
ü
Immodium Fast melts
x
*
0
           –  
ü
Tick and Midge Stuff
x
*
40
       0.09
ü
Foot Cream (Gerwol)
x
*
100
      0.22
ü
JUNGLE GEL
x
*
25
       0.06
ü
Small Penknife
x
*
20
       0.04
ü
          575.00
           –  
          550.00
WASHING KIT
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
MICROFIBRE TOWEL
x
*
125
       0.28
ü
Small Microfibre Flannel
x
*
40
       0.09
ü
TOOTHPASTE
x
*
20
       0.04
ü
TOOTHBRUSH
x
*
10
       0.02
ü
TOILET PAPER
x
*
10
       0.02
ü
SMALL GEL SOAP
x
*
25
       0.06
ü
Foot Cream
x
*
15
       0.03
ü
WAX POT (Small)
x
*
25
       0.06
ü
Nail Scissors
x
*
25
       0.06
ü
Lighter
x
*
20
       0.04
ü
Vaseline
x
*
15
       0.03
ü
          330.00
           –  
ü
          330.00
Miscellaneous + Elec
 WT (g)
 LB
Have
Pack
Bear
x
*
10
       0.02
ü
Leatherman
x
*
110
       0.24
ü
Monocular
x
*
80
       0.18
ü
Pentax Optio + batteries & Case
x
*
340
       0.75
ü
Harmonica
x
*
80
       0.18
ü
Mini Speaker
x
*
60
       0.13
ü
Phone Charger
x
*
75
       0.17
ü
Mobile Phone + Batteries
x
*
420
       0.92
ü
Rail Tickets
x
*
5
       0.01
ü
Accommodation Booking
x
*
15
       0.03
ü
Cards (Cash) & Wproof case
x
*
20
       0.04
ü
READING GLASSES & Case
x
*
35
       0.08
ü
      1,250.00
           –  
ü
      1,250.00
CARRY WEIGHTS
 (g)
 KG
 LB
Walking
1,975.00
1.98
4.35
Tent & Sleeping
4,040.00
4.04
8.89
CLOTHING
482.00
0.48
1.06
Wet Weather
500.00
0.50
1.10
Base Layers
320.00
0.32
0.70
Hats & Gloves
520.00
0.52
1.14
Spare Carry
985.00
0.99
2.17
Lighting & Torches
145.00
0.15
0.32
NAVIGATION
140.00
0.14
0.31
FOOD
1,495.00
1.50
3.29
Cooking Equipment
731.00
0.73
1.61
FIRST AID
550.00
0.55
1.21
WASHING KIT
330.00
0.33
0.73
Miscellaneous + Elec
1,250.00
1.25
2.75
OPTIONAL
*
400.00
0.40
0.88
0.00
0.00
TOTAL
           13,863.00
                 13.86
                 30.50
That could change between now and next Tuesday.
BUT I am thinking mainly NOT.
Unless I can persuade Lucy to let me borrow her SUPER DUPER DOWN sleeping bag, that she used in the Himalayas, and that I paid a lot of money to have refurbished and cleaned.
WELL..
That ain’t gonna happen is it.

TGOC 2014 KIT LIST (And that is a definite maybe)

This may or May NOT be a the starting kit list for the TGOC this May.
BUT, if it isn’t, then it will be close

OH. Yes, the Music is BACK!
Jeff Beck Declan

I have NOT itemised my medical and Wash kit.
It is the usual stuff that I NEED.

Walking
 WT (g)
 LB
RUCKSACK – Osprey Exos 46
975
 2.15
RUCKSACK COVER
100
 0.22
DRY SACKS (Assorted)
175
 0.39
POLES – Leki Carbon Titanium
520
 1.14
SIT MAT
100
 0.22
Sleeping & Camp
 WT (g)
 LB
TENT Wendy Warmlite 2R inc Pegs
1,600
 3.52
Marmot Arroyo SLEEPING BAG (inc Silk Liner)
800
 1.76
NEO Air
375
 0.83
Goose Feet Down Socks
30
 0.07
Goosefeet Down Bootie Covers
60
 0.13
PHD Down Hat
32
 0.07
MLD Ultralight Bivvy Bag`
200
 0.44
    –  
CLOTHING
 WT (g)
 LB 
Shoes ECCO Biom Ultras (GTX Version)
750
 1.65
Lightweight OMM Gaiters
120
 0.26
MONTANE WINDPROOF
32
 0.07
PHD Thinsulate Smock
450
 0.99
X SOCKS Trekking (Wearing)
60
 0.13
MONTANE TERRA PANTS (Cut Offs)
350
 0.77
Paramo Shirt Short Sleeve
150
 0.33
Montane Wind Shirt
32
 0.07
    –  
Wet Weather
 WT (g)
 LB 
PHD Alpamayo Smock
485
 1.07
Berghaus Paclite Trousers
300
 0.66
Seal Skinz Trekking Socks
200
 0.44
    –  
Base Layers
 WT (g)
 LB 
Helly Hansen SMARTWOOL TOP
250
 0.55
Boxers Long
100
 0.22
Kathmandu Merino BOXERS x 2
120
 0.26
EDZ Smartwool Teeshirt
160
 0.35
    –  
Hats & Gloves
 WT (g)
 LB 
Montane Baseball Hat
60
 0.13
North Ridge Gloves (Waterproof)
200
 0.44
North Face Gloves Windproof
40
 0.09
BUFF
60
 0.13
Buffalo Mitts
60
 0.13
MIDGE Hat
20
 0.04
EDZ Merino Beanie
60
 0.13
Spare Carry
 WT (g)
 LB 
HiTec Zuuk Camp & River Shoes
400
 0.88
x Socks x 2 (L & S) (40g+60g)
100
 0.22
Montane Gilet or Rab Microfleece
240
 0.53
Ron Hill Tracksters ??
220
 0.48
Skinz Sock (For My Left Calf)
25
 0.06
Lighting & Torches
 WT (g)
 LB
Petzl eLight Head Torch
35
 0.08
Zebra Torch (Bright)
50
 0.11
Torch Batteries (C032)
50
 0.11
Tiny Tent Hanging Light
10
 0.02
    –  
NAVIGATION
 WT (g)
 LB
Printed Maps and case
160
 0.35
COMPASS
30
 0.07
SMALL COMPASS (On Pack)
10
 0.02
A5 MAP CASE
60
 0.13
    –  
OPTIONAL
 WT (g)
 LB
Micro Spikes ?
400
 0.88
    –  
Miscellaneous + Elec
 WT (g)
 LB
Bear
10
      0.02
Leatherman
100
      0.22
Monocular
80
      0.18
NX 10 Camera + Case & Batteries
1,000
      2.20
Harmonica
80
      0.18
Mini Speaker
60
      0.13
Phone Charger
75
      0.17
Mobile Phone + Batteries
420
      0.92
Spare Music + Phone + Batt
140
      0.31
Rail Tickets
5
      0.01
Accommodation Booking
15
      0.03
Cards (Cash) & Wproof case
20
      0.04
Small Biro
5
      0.01
READING GLASSES & Case
35
      0.08
         –  
WASHING KIT
 WT (g)
 LB
MICROFIBRE TOWEL
125
      0.28
Small Microfibre Flannel
40
      0.09
TOOTHPASTE
20
      0.04
TOOTHBRUSH
10
      0.02
TOILET PAPER
10
      0.02
SMALL GEL SOAP
25
      0.06
Foot Cream
15
      0.03
WAX POT (Small)
25
      0.06
Nail Scissors
25
      0.06
Lighter
20
      0.04
Vaseline
15
      0.03
         –  
Cooking Equipment
 WT (g)
 LB
Jet Boil inc Gas
550
      1.21
Spare Gas 110
140
      0.31
Titanium Spoon
11
      0.02
Rubber Mug
40
      0.09
SMALL PLATYPUS 1L
30
      0.07
Big Platypus 2 L
50
      0.11
Sawyer Mini Water Filter
65
      0.14
Pan Cleaner
10
      0.02
Lighter
20
      0.04
         –  
FOOD
 WT (g)
 LB 
Boil in Bag Meals x 4 (Mountain Trails)
560
      1.23
Jelly Babies
250
      0.55
Instant Chocolate Drinks
66
      0.15
Thai Soups x 4
80
      0.18
Chocolate Bars x 2
200
      0.44
Energy Drinks
100
      0.22
Fruit and Nuts & Cereal
200
      0.44
Cheese
200
      0.44
Lucozade
250
      0.55
Whisky & Sloe Gin (assorted)
400
      0.88
Bread Buns
50
      0.11
         –  

Medical Kit comes in at

grams
Kg
LB
FIRST AID
685.00
0.69
1.51

Total Weights Summary

WEIGHTS
 (g)
 KG
 LB
Walking
1,350.00
1.35
2.97
Sleeping
3,097.00
3.10
6.81
CLOTHING
514.00
0.51
1.13
Wet Weather
500.00
0.50
1.10
Base Layers
280.00
0.28
0.62
Hats & Gloves
500.00
0.50
1.10
Spare Carry
985.00
0.99
2.17
Lighting & Torches
145.00
0.15
0.32
NAVIGATION
260.00
0.26
0.57
FOOD
2,356.00
2.36
5.18
Cooking Equipment
916.00
0.92
2.02
FIRST AID
685.00
0.69
1.51
WASHING KIT
330.00
0.33
0.73
Miscellaneous + Elec
2,045.00
2.05
4.50
OPTIONAL
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
TOTAL
         13,963.00
               13.96
               30.72

I may well have a play with this before the event and get it down a bit.
4 Days in Cairngorms and a few days in lakes ought to rationalize it.

The BIG weight is the camera and batteries at 1kg
Plus medical stuff (which should decrease)
The Food is 4 days and so decreasing load

WE WILL REVISIT THIS LIST!!!!

Have a listen to THIS
And IF you enjoyed that bit of Jeff Beck.

Jeff Beck – A Day In The Life

BROOKS GTX TRAIL SHOES REVIEW

After the demise of my truly excellent Reebok Trail Shoes that they sadly no longer make

Originally like this
After 18 months Hard Graft
and several hundred miles
(at least 700)
I had to find a NEW pair.
I like Innov 8’s for comfort, but not so much for running daily off road, and especially as they have the life expectancy of 
a Butterfly in a Wind Tunnel.
I often use NEW Balance, but having wider feet it means I need an E fitting in that.
And being a cheapskate I was NOT going to pay full whack.
So eventually (having used them in the past for Road Running, I went for a pair of Brooks GTX
I got these from SportsShoes via Amazon
Out of the box they looked good.
They did come up slightly smaller in fit than my Reeboks, or the Innov 8’s
I have broad feet (not quite Hobbit) so need a wide fitting
But as long as I was using thin socks this was no problem.
They did feel tight in my Sealskinz, but since they are GTX that should NOT be a problem
So, several months and a few hundred miles later, how are they doing?

Very little wear on heel cup or stitching.
Good Quality
Little sole wear
COMFORT

This is a totally subjective thing.
Never judge a review on comfort unless the person has YOUR FEET, YOUR BODY and YOUR BRAIN.
Meaning if it ain’t you it probably is not mission critical.
I have found them reasonably comfortable with the correct socks.
As I say unlike the Brooks shoes I have had in the past, I thought they came up slightly smaller. Probably about a ½ size
But they were fine, and I am still using them.
WEAR & TEAR
These have lasted really well so far.
They have been used since about October, and the weather to say the least has been WET
They have been trough MUD HELL and back.
I would say on average they do about 25-30 miles a week minimum.
So, doing the Maths at say 4½ month = 18 weeks at 25 a week, that is at the very least 450 miles
I have done all my running & walking with them OFF ROAD.
Well, they are TRAIL SHOES.
There is very little sign of wear on the uppers or the sole as you can see.
And more importantly, there is NO wear on the stitching in the heel cup, which is brilliant.
Because apart from wear on the soles, and fraying, this is for me the biggest failing of the Innov 8’s
So, wear and tear is very good for me.
WATERPROOF
There is NO SUCH THING as a WATERPROOF shoe
But these have been quite acceptable.
Easily as good as the Reebok’s and my old New Balance, and the Roclite GTX’s
The upper is mesh, and with some pace, they do not get breached.
Stand in a puddle with water over the mesh, then they DO leak.
Plunge your foot into a deep puddle and they fill with water, and that is it.
They have a Gortex lining and it WILL take time to dry.
BUT, having said that, they dry reasonably quickly.
You do need a stiff breeze, some time or a lot of Newspaper and a radiator.
GRIP & STABILITY
The Stability has been good.
On normal ground, the grip is also good, even in the wet.
Both walking and running and on various terrain.
The weakness appears to be in mud, where the sole is not quite up to the job.
I found in slippery mud, they slide about and you tend to lose most of the grip.
OK, they are NOT fell running shoes, and they are NOT Cross Country spikes, but they need more grip in mud.
Especially when you need that extra grip on the edges.
For me it just was not there and I slid too much.
OVERALL
So, would I consider another pair? YES, at the right price
Would I get a ½ size bigger? YES
Will my NEXT pair of Trail Shoes be Brooks? Probably NO
Should you buy them at the full asking price? NOT in my opinion
That’s it really.
And No Music???
What is going on??
You can always click below ……………………
Tina Dico – The Other Side 

HERE KITTY KITTY KIT LIST ……

So, just over a week to go.


Time for that final kit decision.


All is ready, parcels done and sent off, assorted gear checked out.
I had set myself a goal this year to get under 27lb
(that does not inc Poles and Shoes),

BUT, I may not achieve that, because that would involve things like writing big lists,
and worse than that, getting out scales and weighing stuff, and then cross referencing duplicate items
and decision making on what does not need to go, and that is all a bit
ANALLY retentive isn’t it. (Is that 2 L’s or just the 1?)

So, instead I am just going to make a list of what I reckon I need and will take.
I am not going to make a complete item by item list, (well I might)
because things like washing kit,
and medical supplies (non alcoholic), are all rather personal aren’t they?
I mean, my boss Mr Sloman, has a list of medication that fills half his rucksack.

Anyway, here is my list (PROBABLY)!

Now, having looked at that kit, there may be some Ultralight fanatics that will say.

“Well, you don’t need that”
“And why have 2 of those?”

And my answer to you would be

NO…..YOU don’t need that!

BUT…YOU are not carrying it, so it is indeed irrelevant.

You are of course entitled to your opinion even if you are wrong!

CLOTHING
Shoes Innov8 Roclites
Lightweight Gelert GAITERS
Berghaus Men’s Temperance II GORE-TEX Pro Shell Jacket
(yes I know Al, we’ll look like bloody twins darling)
Paclite waterproof Trousers
Montane Windproof (32g)
PHD Minimus 400 Down Jacket
Smartwool Top
Smartwool 3/4 bottoms
Merino T Shirt
Paramo Short Sleeve Shirt
Montane Terra Pants
Montane Hat
Merino Buff
Fleece Balaclava
X socks trekking 3 pairs
Sealskinz Trekking
Down Socks (bloody marvellous)
Smartwool Boxers
Katmandu merino Boxers
Midge Hat
Buffalo Mitts
Gortex Over Mitts
Thin Outdoor gear gloves
Crocs (just for Humph 🙂
GEAR (inc Electrical etc)
Tent (Trailstar)
Pegs – 1 x Blizzard, 2 x 9″, 7 x 7″ Titanium (2 spare)
Oooknest
SilNylon Groundsheet (homemade)
Microfibre Flannel for condensation and Tent Cleaning
Marmot Sleeping Bag
Silk Liner
MLD Ultralight Bivy Bag (200g)
Neo Air (Full Length)
Inflatible Pillow (20g)
Thermarest Sit Mat
Exos Rucksack (46L) +Pod Rain Cover
Rucksack Dry Liner
Pacer Poles
Higear Blaze Titanium Stove (48g) Not sure where I got 32g from?
Primus Gas 250g
Primus wind shield
Lighter
Titanium Mug + Scourer
TGO Plastic Mug
Spork
Delios Filter
Platypus 2L
Leatherman Lightweight tool
Petzl eLight Torch
Mini Maglite
Spare Torch batteries
Samsung Galaxy S2 Mobile + Spare battery
Phone Charger (also charges MP3)
Pentax Optio WG1 Camera and Spare Battery
Lowpro Camera case
Sansa Clip MP3 player and headphones
X mini speaker (it is well light)
Notebook
Biro
Duck Tape
Spare Boot Lace
Tenacious Tent Repair Tape (trust me)
Cash and 1 Credit/Debit Card
Rail Tickets
Reading Glasses (I forget them once – buggered)
Harmonica in A or G (Maybe?)
NAVIGATION
Printed Maps (some posted in parcels)
Satmap GPS
Set of spare GPS Batteries (3 x AA)
Compass + Mini Compass & Thermometer
Ortleib A5 Map case

Creams etc are usually in small 30ml travel pots
WASHING KIT
Toothbrush & Tootpaste (mini tube)
Cut Down Microfibre Towel
Gel Soap
Microfibre Flannel
Toilet Paper + Lighter
Wet Wipes in a plastic zip bag
FIRST AID
Blister Plasters + New Skin
Plasters
Steri Strips
Gauze Pad
Painkillers
Small Pot with Foot Talc in
Gehwol Foot Cream (small tube)
Vaseline Tin
Nail Scissors
Roll of 2½ ” Micropore
Physio Tape (I broke my leg once it was bloody useful)
Sun Cream (ski size tube) includes a lipsalve
Zovirax
Insect Repellent (A Vogel)
20ml pot Avon Skin So Soft Oil
Tick Puller
Immodium (Oh Yes)
FOOD (This is subjective and also route specific)
3 x Outdoors Grub Meals (per night camping)
Some in parcels – 5 needed for Spean Bridge to Braemar
Jelly Babies (must have)
Lucozade Energy Sweets (pkt)
Chocolate Bars (unknown no, minimum 2)
Energy Drink Powder
300ml Single Malt
400ml Sloe Gin or Port
Instant Soup 3 pkts
Instant Chocolate or Coffee Drink 4 pkts
The rest varies but might at any time include
Rolls
Cheese or Cheese spread
Bottle Lucozade
Meusli
Beer
Nuts and Raisins

Well, that is about it.
I have probably forgotten something.
I will add it when I pack.

I might NOT need it all, but I am certainly going to take it all. (Probably)

NOW, IF you should spot some essential bit of kit I have forgotten, please let me know in a comment.

It might be life saving, or life changing 🙂

A bit annoyed that Lucy or someone appears to have given me a bit of a snuffle.
Need to get rid of it by next Wed that is for sure, or I will be adding cold cure tables to my list

Oceansize – Track Rinsed – Album Effloresce